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		<title>Comment on Social Justice Revival? by I&#8217;ve Been Gone for a While. - Pilant&#039;s Business Ethics &#124; Pilant&#039;s Business Ethics</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2012/01/31/social-justice-revival/#comment-6332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve Been Gone for a While. - Pilant&#039;s Business Ethics &#124; Pilant&#039;s Business Ethics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Dollars for Diversity and Equity at U of Az by Thomas Thibeault</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2012/02/02/dollars-for-diversity-and-equity/#comment-6329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Thibeault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Ed. When I tried to bring up the problem of  male under-representation in our college, the boss jumped up, slammed the door shut, and told me, &quot;You can&#039;t say things like that.&quot;

I suppose we can&#039;t, unless there&#039;s grant money involved!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ed. When I tried to bring up the problem of  male under-representation in our college, the boss jumped up, slammed the door shut, and told me, &#8220;You can&#8217;t say things like that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I suppose we can&#8217;t, unless there&#8217;s grant money involved!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dollars for Diversity and Equity at U of Az by Ed</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2012/02/02/dollars-for-diversity-and-equity/#comment-6328</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it would be interesting to do a full audit of the incredibly complex web of finances that go in and out of any of these women advocacy offices, both in academia and in government.  There is Federal VAWA money, other Federal money, state money, university money, donated money and revenue money -- and once you move it back and forth two or three times between these various entities, who really knows what money is coming from where or being spent on what...

Throw in the related agencies and the financial linkages where some money is donated but the recipient has to match it, or has to meet some conditions, and there is quite a bit of political power here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be interesting to do a full audit of the incredibly complex web of finances that go in and out of any of these women advocacy offices, both in academia and in government.  There is Federal VAWA money, other Federal money, state money, university money, donated money and revenue money &#8212; and once you move it back and forth two or three times between these various entities, who really knows what money is coming from where or being spent on what&#8230;</p>
<p>Throw in the related agencies and the financial linkages where some money is donated but the recipient has to match it, or has to meet some conditions, and there is quite a bit of political power here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dollars for Diversity and Equity at U of Az by Thomas Thibeault</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2012/02/02/dollars-for-diversity-and-equity/#comment-6326</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Thibeault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so similar to the statements from Oprah Winfrey&#039;s Leadership Academy. It might be a good idea to peel back the layers of meaning in both documents. It might also be a revealing exercise to investigate the relationship between Oprah Winfrey and Russlynn Ali at the OCR and her Letter to Colleagues of October 26, 2010.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so similar to the statements from Oprah Winfrey&#8217;s Leadership Academy. It might be a good idea to peel back the layers of meaning in both documents. It might also be a revealing exercise to investigate the relationship between Oprah Winfrey and Russlynn Ali at the OCR and her Letter to Colleagues of October 26, 2010.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dollars for Diversity and Equity at U of Az by Ed</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2012/02/02/dollars-for-diversity-and-equity/#comment-6324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My blood is boiling.

I suggest all to take a look at the fax number, highlighted in yellow, at the end of the announcement -- and the open statement of where that number is located -- the &quot;Disability Resource Center.&quot;

And a hunch combined with simple Boolean logic gives us this:

http://drc.arizona.edu/about/staff_directory#student_fac_res

Yes, Barb Borich is an &quot;Access Consultant&quot; for students with a disability.
The university has 11 people serving individuals with disabilities, 10 of whom are female
which is 91%.

Students with disabilities are disproportionately male and for two reasons.  First, learning disabilities and such are inherited and like other inherited things (e.g. hemophilia) tend to show up far more often in male children.  Depending on which disability and which &quot;expert&quot; you listen to, it ranges from 3:1 to 10:1 male and while things like ADHD tend to be underdiagnosed in K-12 girls (who aren;t referred to SPED because they aren&#039;t disrupting the classroom and hence aren&#039;t a threat to the female classroom teacher), absolutely everybody with a title says that these disabilities are disproportionately male.

Second, which gender is disproportionately being injured in combat -- and then coming into K-12 with everything from missing limbs to PTSD?  The female disabled veteran is the exception, not the rule.

So you have a vastly VASTLY disproportionately male cadre being served by a staff that is only 0.9% male.  Notwithstanding the immediate question of why OCR&#039;s interpretation of TItle IX doesn&#039;t apply here as well, I don&#039;t have an immediate problem with it anymore than I do with a police department that is 90% male -- we live in a country where people can pursue their interests and do what they hopefully are good at.  There is also that little thing Dr. King said about content of character and not physical characteristics....  (And we won&#039;t even get into what got Larry Sommers into trouble...)

Nor do I have any problem with someone doing something on her own time, with her own resources, and making it very clear that there is a &quot;wall of separation&quot; between her political activities and her employment ones.  You don&#039;t use the &quot;Disability Resource Center&quot; fax machine, you use the Women&#039;s Center one.  (Or you at least don&#039;t say where the number goes to.)  Otherwise, you are creating a hostile environment for male students -- who are the majority of your potential clients (even if they elect not to seek your assistance).

But it is worse here.

Note this line in the goals:  &quot;To increase leadership and advancement opportunities for women and underrepresented minorities.&quot;

Women and minorities.  Not just women.  And note that the word &quot;disability&quot; is not included -- YOU HAVE A WOMAN WHOSE JOB IS TO HELP PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WHO IS IGNORING THE VERY GROUP OF PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO HELP!!!!

Maybe I am wrong, maybe Ms. Borich is such a tireless advocate for disabled white male students and is so respected by absolutely everyone as such that she was considered the only person objective enough to administer this program and someone twisted her arm and talked her into doing it.  Yes, maybe, and I remember once hearing about snow in Death Valley...

I&#039;ve never been to Arizona, let alone to this university --  I am just looking at the objective facts.  The Census reports Arizona to be 73% white  (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/04000.html) and let&#039;s say that the cadre of students with a disability is 75% male (I would argue it is higher that that).  They are assisted by a cadre of people who are 91% female and at least one of whom is running this grant for women and minorities out of the disability services office...

An office that is supposed to be friendly to a cadre of students that is 73% white and 75% male....

Do I really need to add the next three paragraphs????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My blood is boiling.</p>
<p>I suggest all to take a look at the fax number, highlighted in yellow, at the end of the announcement &#8212; and the open statement of where that number is located &#8212; the &#8220;Disability Resource Center.&#8221;</p>
<p>And a hunch combined with simple Boolean logic gives us this:</p>
<p><a href="http://drc.arizona.edu/about/staff_directory#student_fac_res" rel="nofollow">http://drc.arizona.edu/about/staff_directory#student_fac_res</a></p>
<p>Yes, Barb Borich is an &#8220;Access Consultant&#8221; for students with a disability.<br />
The university has 11 people serving individuals with disabilities, 10 of whom are female<br />
which is 91%.</p>
<p>Students with disabilities are disproportionately male and for two reasons.  First, learning disabilities and such are inherited and like other inherited things (e.g. hemophilia) tend to show up far more often in male children.  Depending on which disability and which &#8220;expert&#8221; you listen to, it ranges from 3:1 to 10:1 male and while things like ADHD tend to be underdiagnosed in K-12 girls (who aren;t referred to SPED because they aren&#8217;t disrupting the classroom and hence aren&#8217;t a threat to the female classroom teacher), absolutely everybody with a title says that these disabilities are disproportionately male.</p>
<p>Second, which gender is disproportionately being injured in combat &#8212; and then coming into K-12 with everything from missing limbs to PTSD?  The female disabled veteran is the exception, not the rule.</p>
<p>So you have a vastly VASTLY disproportionately male cadre being served by a staff that is only 0.9% male.  Notwithstanding the immediate question of why OCR&#8217;s interpretation of TItle IX doesn&#8217;t apply here as well, I don&#8217;t have an immediate problem with it anymore than I do with a police department that is 90% male &#8212; we live in a country where people can pursue their interests and do what they hopefully are good at.  There is also that little thing Dr. King said about content of character and not physical characteristics&#8230;.  (And we won&#8217;t even get into what got Larry Sommers into trouble&#8230;)</p>
<p>Nor do I have any problem with someone doing something on her own time, with her own resources, and making it very clear that there is a &#8220;wall of separation&#8221; between her political activities and her employment ones.  You don&#8217;t use the &#8220;Disability Resource Center&#8221; fax machine, you use the Women&#8217;s Center one.  (Or you at least don&#8217;t say where the number goes to.)  Otherwise, you are creating a hostile environment for male students &#8212; who are the majority of your potential clients (even if they elect not to seek your assistance).</p>
<p>But it is worse here.</p>
<p>Note this line in the goals:  &#8220;To increase leadership and advancement opportunities for women and underrepresented minorities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Women and minorities.  Not just women.  And note that the word &#8220;disability&#8221; is not included &#8212; YOU HAVE A WOMAN WHOSE JOB IS TO HELP PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WHO IS IGNORING THE VERY GROUP OF PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO HELP!!!!</p>
<p>Maybe I am wrong, maybe Ms. Borich is such a tireless advocate for disabled white male students and is so respected by absolutely everyone as such that she was considered the only person objective enough to administer this program and someone twisted her arm and talked her into doing it.  Yes, maybe, and I remember once hearing about snow in Death Valley&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been to Arizona, let alone to this university &#8212;  I am just looking at the objective facts.  The Census reports Arizona to be 73% white  (<a href="http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/04000.html" rel="nofollow">http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/04000.html</a>) and let&#8217;s say that the cadre of students with a disability is 75% male (I would argue it is higher that that).  They are assisted by a cadre of people who are 91% female and at least one of whom is running this grant for women and minorities out of the disability services office&#8230;</p>
<p>An office that is supposed to be friendly to a cadre of students that is 73% white and 75% male&#8230;.</p>
<p>Do I really need to add the next three paragraphs????</p>
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		<title>Comment on Social Justice Revival? by Dollars for Diversity and Equity at U of Az &#171; NAS Blog</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2012/01/31/social-justice-revival/#comment-6322</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dollars for Diversity and Equity at U of Az &#171; NAS Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I said here recently, whatever else you might think about &#8220;social justice,&#8221; it really seems to have [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Social Justice Revival? by PAthena</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2012/01/31/social-justice-revival/#comment-6319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PAthena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Social Justice&quot; is injustice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Social Justice&#8221; is injustice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FIRE Notes NJ Anti-Bullying Law Endangers Free Speech On Campus by PAthena</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2012/02/01/fire-notes-nj-anti-bullying-law-endangers-free-speech-on-campus/#comment-6318</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PAthena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The origin of &quot;bullying&quot; as a crime of sorts came from the excuses made by Bob Bechtel, now a professor, who murdered a fellow student at Swarthmore College in 1955.  He blames that the cause of his murdering the student was bullying.
Bechtel testified about this at a legislative hearing some years ago, I believe in Colorado, or wherever he is.  He has never accepted responsibility for his crime - he was, I think, committed to a mental institution for some years.
So check into the history of this newly-invented crime - from the excuses of a murderer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The origin of &#8220;bullying&#8221; as a crime of sorts came from the excuses made by Bob Bechtel, now a professor, who murdered a fellow student at Swarthmore College in 1955.  He blames that the cause of his murdering the student was bullying.<br />
Bechtel testified about this at a legislative hearing some years ago, I believe in Colorado, or wherever he is.  He has never accepted responsibility for his crime &#8211; he was, I think, committed to a mental institution for some years.<br />
So check into the history of this newly-invented crime &#8211; from the excuses of a murderer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Aggressive Anti-Bullying Crusade Gathers Steam by FIRE Notes NJ Anti-Bullying Law Endangers Free Speech On Campus &#171; NAS Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FIRE Notes NJ Anti-Bullying Law Endangers Free Speech On Campus &#171; NAS Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Count on Trustees by Glenn Ricketts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn Ricketts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trustees in my experience, whatever their political bent, unfortunately tend to be loyalist rah-rahs, mainly concerned about good publicity or the school&#039;s sports reputation.  They are very deferential to the president who, at larger schools, knows how to ply them with football tickets on the 50 yard line and annual dinners at posh restaurants.  They usually are unaware of,  and uninterested in, the great ideological issues besetting the academy; they&#039;re focused on graduation rates and quantifiable measures of &quot;success.&quot;  Otherwise, it&#039;s usually a perk to sit on the board of a university, since it pads their cv and usually doesn&#039;t impose too seriously on their time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trustees in my experience, whatever their political bent, unfortunately tend to be loyalist rah-rahs, mainly concerned about good publicity or the school&#8217;s sports reputation.  They are very deferential to the president who, at larger schools, knows how to ply them with football tickets on the 50 yard line and annual dinners at posh restaurants.  They usually are unaware of,  and uninterested in, the great ideological issues besetting the academy; they&#8217;re focused on graduation rates and quantifiable measures of &#8220;success.&#8221;  Otherwise, it&#8217;s usually a perk to sit on the board of a university, since it pads their cv and usually doesn&#8217;t impose too seriously on their time.</p>
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