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		<title>Comment on Federal Judge Upholds Thought Reform at EMU by Glenn Ricketts</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2010/07/28/federal-judge-upholds-thought-reform-at-emu/#comment-1988</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Ricketts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we&#039;re in agreement on tenure, since that&#039;s also my own position.  As for Peter, I think he was referring to the bad manners of some people at Hamilton, not the institution of tenure, a separate issue.  My impressionistic, non-empirical view of the subject is that it transcends easy classification within familiar politcal categories.  I&#039;ve been told by some colleagues that senior administrators at their institutions would love to get rid of tenure, or at least most of it, since they could then rely on adjunct faculty to carry most of the teaching load.  Adjuncts, of course, can be terminated at the drop of a hat, without a leg to stand on; tenured faculty can&#039;t.

I do have some familiarity with the application of the First Amendment to public colleges and universities and, as I noted in my post, there is usually a heavy burden of proof on an insitution to justify curtailing free speech or free expression of religion.  We&#039;ll see what happens at the appeals level.  Anyway, if you do write something for our front page, it needn&#039;t be terribly elaborate or lengthy, but you know the demands on your own time.  Did you happen to see the comments thread for Kerry Emanuel&#039;s article?  I&#039;d be interested in your thoughts there.  In any case, please do consider yourself welcome, we appreciate your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we&#8217;re in agreement on tenure, since that&#8217;s also my own position.  As for Peter, I think he was referring to the bad manners of some people at Hamilton, not the institution of tenure, a separate issue.  My impressionistic, non-empirical view of the subject is that it transcends easy classification within familiar politcal categories.  I&#8217;ve been told by some colleagues that senior administrators at their institutions would love to get rid of tenure, or at least most of it, since they could then rely on adjunct faculty to carry most of the teaching load.  Adjuncts, of course, can be terminated at the drop of a hat, without a leg to stand on; tenured faculty can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I do have some familiarity with the application of the First Amendment to public colleges and universities and, as I noted in my post, there is usually a heavy burden of proof on an insitution to justify curtailing free speech or free expression of religion.  We&#8217;ll see what happens at the appeals level.  Anyway, if you do write something for our front page, it needn&#8217;t be terribly elaborate or lengthy, but you know the demands on your own time.  Did you happen to see the comments thread for Kerry Emanuel&#8217;s article?  I&#8217;d be interested in your thoughts there.  In any case, please do consider yourself welcome, we appreciate your input.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Federal Judge Upholds Thought Reform at EMU by Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2010/07/28/federal-judge-upholds-thought-reform-at-emu/#comment-1986</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned tenure in your concluding sentence.  Which conservatives am I referring to?  Your own Peter Wood, who mentioned &quot;tenured savages&quot; in his recent piece on Hamilton College, if I am not totally mistaken.  OK, maybe he&#039;s not to be considered a &quot;conservative.&quot;  I have seen the Atlantic article.  The attacks on tenure are now mostly from the right, but I&#039;m well aware the wind can switch directions, or even gust in all directions at once.  (Also, the notion of tenure must eat at those poor joes in the dying print media.)  And, right, I know that you have supported tenure.  

On the case at hand, I&#039;m horrified at what&#039;s happening in that program.  But I&#039;m not sure that First Amendment rights trump the right of the program to determine its own standards.  I&#039;m no constitutional scholar, however.  

I do believe that tenure is probably the cornerstone of academic freedom.  Without tenure, academic freedom is gone.  Either they can get rid of you or they can&#039;t, it&#039;s almost that simple.   

I also have to say, without the prospect of a tenure-track position, with the possibility of tenure down the road, an academic career would be of no future interest to me.  The other rewards and opportunities outside academia are just too great.  (Approximately double the pay right after Ph.D., for starters.)  I&#039;m talking about the natural sciences, I know little about the other fields.  

Too busy trying to get out more of those worthless publications to write an article!  But thanks for the offer.  By the way, how much do you pay?  Just kidding LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned tenure in your concluding sentence.  Which conservatives am I referring to?  Your own Peter Wood, who mentioned &#8220;tenured savages&#8221; in his recent piece on Hamilton College, if I am not totally mistaken.  OK, maybe he&#8217;s not to be considered a &#8220;conservative.&#8221;  I have seen the Atlantic article.  The attacks on tenure are now mostly from the right, but I&#8217;m well aware the wind can switch directions, or even gust in all directions at once.  (Also, the notion of tenure must eat at those poor joes in the dying print media.)  And, right, I know that you have supported tenure.  </p>
<p>On the case at hand, I&#8217;m horrified at what&#8217;s happening in that program.  But I&#8217;m not sure that First Amendment rights trump the right of the program to determine its own standards.  I&#8217;m no constitutional scholar, however.  </p>
<p>I do believe that tenure is probably the cornerstone of academic freedom.  Without tenure, academic freedom is gone.  Either they can get rid of you or they can&#8217;t, it&#8217;s almost that simple.   </p>
<p>I also have to say, without the prospect of a tenure-track position, with the possibility of tenure down the road, an academic career would be of no future interest to me.  The other rewards and opportunities outside academia are just too great.  (Approximately double the pay right after Ph.D., for starters.)  I&#8217;m talking about the natural sciences, I know little about the other fields.  </p>
<p>Too busy trying to get out more of those worthless publications to write an article!  But thanks for the offer.  By the way, how much do you pay?  Just kidding LOL!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Federal Judge Upholds Thought Reform at EMU by Glenn Ricketts</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2010/07/28/federal-judge-upholds-thought-reform-at-emu/#comment-1985</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Ricketts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see that you&#039;re back, Jonathan, but you&#039;re confusing me again.  I mentioned tenure tangentially, but my post was chiefly focused on the First Amendment issues raised by EMU&#039;s dismissal of Julea Ward.  What do you think about that?  And who are the &quot;conservatives&quot; you&#039;re referring to, in reference to the issue of tenure?  I don&#039;t see how this can be cast as a &quot;conservative&quot; issue.  Have you seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/07/tenure-an-idea-whose-time-has-gone/60187/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article &lt;/a&gt;in the not-very-conservative &lt;em&gt;Atlantic &lt;/em&gt;this month? NAS as an organization has no position on tenure, and our members line up on both sides of the issue.  Several years ago, we ran a syposium in &lt;em&gt;Academic Questions &lt;/em&gt;on the subject, and it generated some lively, even heated, discussion.  For myself, I&#039;ve indicated here and elsewhere that, whatever tenure&#039;s faults - nothing&#039;s perfect, right? -  I&#039;m still in favor of it, since I would otherwise have been toast long ago.  Oh and by the way, are you going to write that article for us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see that you&#8217;re back, Jonathan, but you&#8217;re confusing me again.  I mentioned tenure tangentially, but my post was chiefly focused on the First Amendment issues raised by EMU&#8217;s dismissal of Julea Ward.  What do you think about that?  And who are the &#8220;conservatives&#8221; you&#8217;re referring to, in reference to the issue of tenure?  I don&#8217;t see how this can be cast as a &#8220;conservative&#8221; issue.  Have you seen <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/07/tenure-an-idea-whose-time-has-gone/60187/" rel="nofollow">this article </a>in the not-very-conservative <em>Atlantic </em>this month? NAS as an organization has no position on tenure, and our members line up on both sides of the issue.  Several years ago, we ran a syposium in <em>Academic Questions </em>on the subject, and it generated some lively, even heated, discussion.  For myself, I&#8217;ve indicated here and elsewhere that, whatever tenure&#8217;s faults &#8211; nothing&#8217;s perfect, right? &#8211;  I&#8217;m still in favor of it, since I would otherwise have been toast long ago.  Oh and by the way, are you going to write that article for us?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Federal Judge Upholds Thought Reform at EMU by Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe conservatives will rediscover the value of tenure!  Would be nice if there weren&#039;t so many references on this site to &quot;tenured rage&quot;, &quot;tenured savages&quot;, etc.  Even David French of the Alliance Defense Fund seems to be coming to the conclusion that tenure is not all bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe conservatives will rediscover the value of tenure!  Would be nice if there weren&#8217;t so many references on this site to &#8220;tenured rage&#8221;, &#8220;tenured savages&#8221;, etc.  Even David French of the Alliance Defense Fund seems to be coming to the conclusion that tenure is not all bad.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Less Effort, Higher Grades! by Glenn Ricketts</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2010/07/28/less-effort-higher-grades/#comment-1982</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Ricketts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in case anyone missed it, have a look as well at Jason Fertig&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nas.org/polArticles.cfm?doctype_code=Article&amp;doc_id=1415&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent piece&lt;/a&gt; on this very depressing topic.  What&#039;s been especially irksome for me is the ho-hum attitude you routinely encounter from administrators, who are perfectly willing to accomodate lazy students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in case anyone missed it, have a look as well at Jason Fertig&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nas.org/polArticles.cfm?doctype_code=Article&amp;doc_id=1415" rel="nofollow">recent piece</a> on this very depressing topic.  What&#8217;s been especially irksome for me is the ho-hum attitude you routinely encounter from administrators, who are perfectly willing to accomodate lazy students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keep John Galt Off Campus by James A. Glasscock</title>
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		<dc:creator>James A. Glasscock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my student age 50 years ago, the college and seminary I attended did not demand that only one line of thought was acceptable. If a class is not the marketplace of ideas in many disciplines, then the class is an indoctrination center, not an educational enterprise. 

I pity today&#039;s student who pays megadollars for an education is receives an inferior education. Seems like stealing to me. 
James A. Glasscock, Longdrycreek Ranch,Texas Panhandle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my student age 50 years ago, the college and seminary I attended did not demand that only one line of thought was acceptable. If a class is not the marketplace of ideas in many disciplines, then the class is an indoctrination center, not an educational enterprise. </p>
<p>I pity today&#8217;s student who pays megadollars for an education is receives an inferior education. Seems like stealing to me.<br />
James A. Glasscock, Longdrycreek Ranch,Texas Panhandle</p>
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		<title>Comment on FIRE Scores Again for Academic Freedom by Glenn Ricketts</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2010/07/27/fire-scores-again-for-academic-freedom/#comment-1978</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Ricketts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the Chancellor will say that it&#039;s a matter of academic freedom, do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the Chancellor will say that it&#8217;s a matter of academic freedom, do you think?</p>
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		<title>Comment on FIRE Scores Again for Academic Freedom by Reader</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2010/07/27/fire-scores-again-for-academic-freedom/#comment-1977</link>
		<dc:creator>Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Clemens, thanks for the link. That is appalling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Clemens, thanks for the link. That is appalling.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FIRE Scores Again for Academic Freedom by David Clemens</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2010/07/27/fire-scores-again-for-academic-freedom/#comment-1975</link>
		<dc:creator>David Clemens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evergreen is quite the institution of higher something-or-other.  Sit down before reading this story:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/iteam&amp;id=7134922</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evergreen is quite the institution of higher something-or-other.  Sit down before reading this story:</p>
<p><a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/iteam&amp;id=7134922" rel="nofollow">http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/iteam&amp;id=7134922</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Campuses&#8217; &#8216;Chokepoint Charlies&#8217; by Regina Lee Blaszczyk, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://nasblog.org/2010/07/22/campuses-chokepoint-charlies/#comment-1973</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina Lee Blaszczyk, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo to Tom Blumer for the excellent discussion of Campus Chokepoints and Chokepoint Charlies. 

I am a nontraditional history scholar who entered the academy in 1989 after a decade-long career in a high-profile public institution.  The Washington bureaucracy is a model of democracy compared to the academy.  In my public institution, we had annual reviews, clear-cut objectives for the next year&#039;s performance, and an appeals process.  Young staff members were encouraged to follow their instincts and develop new research strategies.  Granted, there were problems with the rambling bureaucracy, but there was a good deal of flexibility and tolerance. 

By contrast, I have found that most, but not all, universities are filled with Chokepoint Charlies. I was lucky to find a graduate school mentor who encouraged me to write on a nontraditional topic, but the majority of faculty members could not see beyond the dominating OAH/AHA mantra of Race, Class, and Gender or some other &quot;dominant paradigm.&quot;  A brief stint on the tenure-track at a large northeastern university exposed me to the narrowness of academic research, and more egregiously, to administrators who publicly claimed to support a diversity of opinion but who would not stand up to the social historians. To name names, the Jon Silber administration turned out not to be user friendly to this scholar with centrist values.  

Since leaving my full-time academic position in 2002, I have established a very successful consulting business and published up a storm, but recently encountered the Chokepoint Charlies again in a job search at a local public university. The troops rallied, closed ranks, and used tenure as a mechanism for discounting highly qualified nontraditional applicants for a public history position.  The end result was that yet another faculty member espousing the same-old same-old was added to the department, while those of us with stronger publication records, more experience as fundraisers, and a broader interdisciplinary focus were excluded. &quot;Dear Worm, You don&#039;t currently hold tenure, so we won&#039;t even consider your application.  We hope you will be happy to continue working as our adjunct slave.&quot;

Most universities have become mono-versities, and the tenure system has contributed to the problem.  The exclusion of non-tenured faculty from a job search is particularly problematic given the current employment situation. As the U.S. Department of Education has just told us, 57% of faculty are now off the tenure track.  Nearly 60% of people who received history Ph.D.&#039;s from 1990 to 2004 do not work as faculty in academic history departments.  When the Checkpoint Charlies exclude non-academics or adjunct faculty from the pool of candidates for full time slots, they exclude the bulk of available talent. 

But, then, why would the Checkpoint Charlies want to include people who see the world through a different set of lenses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo to Tom Blumer for the excellent discussion of Campus Chokepoints and Chokepoint Charlies. </p>
<p>I am a nontraditional history scholar who entered the academy in 1989 after a decade-long career in a high-profile public institution.  The Washington bureaucracy is a model of democracy compared to the academy.  In my public institution, we had annual reviews, clear-cut objectives for the next year&#8217;s performance, and an appeals process.  Young staff members were encouraged to follow their instincts and develop new research strategies.  Granted, there were problems with the rambling bureaucracy, but there was a good deal of flexibility and tolerance. </p>
<p>By contrast, I have found that most, but not all, universities are filled with Chokepoint Charlies. I was lucky to find a graduate school mentor who encouraged me to write on a nontraditional topic, but the majority of faculty members could not see beyond the dominating OAH/AHA mantra of Race, Class, and Gender or some other &#8220;dominant paradigm.&#8221;  A brief stint on the tenure-track at a large northeastern university exposed me to the narrowness of academic research, and more egregiously, to administrators who publicly claimed to support a diversity of opinion but who would not stand up to the social historians. To name names, the Jon Silber administration turned out not to be user friendly to this scholar with centrist values.  </p>
<p>Since leaving my full-time academic position in 2002, I have established a very successful consulting business and published up a storm, but recently encountered the Chokepoint Charlies again in a job search at a local public university. The troops rallied, closed ranks, and used tenure as a mechanism for discounting highly qualified nontraditional applicants for a public history position.  The end result was that yet another faculty member espousing the same-old same-old was added to the department, while those of us with stronger publication records, more experience as fundraisers, and a broader interdisciplinary focus were excluded. &#8220;Dear Worm, You don&#8217;t currently hold tenure, so we won&#8217;t even consider your application.  We hope you will be happy to continue working as our adjunct slave.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most universities have become mono-versities, and the tenure system has contributed to the problem.  The exclusion of non-tenured faculty from a job search is particularly problematic given the current employment situation. As the U.S. Department of Education has just told us, 57% of faculty are now off the tenure track.  Nearly 60% of people who received history Ph.D.&#8217;s from 1990 to 2004 do not work as faculty in academic history departments.  When the Checkpoint Charlies exclude non-academics or adjunct faculty from the pool of candidates for full time slots, they exclude the bulk of available talent. </p>
<p>But, then, why would the Checkpoint Charlies want to include people who see the world through a different set of lenses?</p>
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